An interview with Mark Rusin

Mark Rusin with President Bill Clinton

Mark Rusin with President Bill Clinton

Mark Rusin was born and raised on the south side of Chicago.  He attended Quigley South High School and Western IllinoisUniversity, where he majored in law-enforcement administration (and ice hockey.)   Mark is a former Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer and retired ATF Special Agent.  During his law-enforcement career, Mark witnessed and investigated several major fire scenes, homicides, bombings, and other high-profile cases, which serve as inspiration for his stories.  He is a Chicago sports junkie and a published writer. This is his first crime novel.  Mark lives in the Chicago area with his wife, Marcie, where he continues to write stories and still dreams about playing hockey for his hometown Blackhawks.

How long have you been writing? 

I started writing short stories and poetry as far back as I can recall. In grade school I had a crush on this one cute girl in my class.  I wanted to impress her so I wrote her poems.  Turns out we dated for a long time but as we got older my poetry skills ultimately lost out to some older guy with money.

I also wrote my mom and dad poems over the years for their birthdays, anniversaries, mothers’ and fathers’ days and just to tell them how much I loved them.

Then when I was a Las Vegas cop we had to dictate our reports and they would get transcribed for us.  I saved copies of all my reports and just elaborated with more detail as I prepared for court.  It also served to help me “vent” any time I was involved in any dangerous or overwhelming situation like a shooting where I almost got killed to homicides, suicides and the MGM Grand Hotel fire from where I pulled dead bodies.

In fact, I have kept a log of short stories or vignettes of the twenty craziest, scariest, funniest, saddest most unbelievable calls I handled in my four years of patrolling the Las Vegas strip.  These stories are all told in first person as I responded to the scene.  They all intended to put the reader in the squad car with me or even in my shoes.  It is some very real, dangerous, funny and emotional stuff.

Believe it or not when you live and experience trauma first hand it is easy to write about, that is if you like to write.  Lucky for me, I love to write.

Then as an ATF Special Agent from 1983-1988 when I worked the street, I had to type out all my reports as these were pre-computer days.  I got pretty good at that as well.  I also kept great notes and a diary for which I used to draw stories from, like my crime novel JUSTICE FOR DALLAS.

 

At what point did you reach a place where you felt successful as a writer?

I have always thought that I can tell a good copper story with the best of them.  With over 30 years in the law enforcement business I have seen some stuff.  That is why I have a unique perspective from which to tell my stories.  I was there.  It’s not a cop telling a writer a story and then he or she writes about it.

My wonderful wife Marcie, who I have written a few poems to over the past 28 years, has been supportive all along and very adamant that I could write well.  I always thought she was just saying that because she loves me and didn’t want to hurt my feelings.

Some say I look like a cop, act like a cop, walk like a cop and talk like a cop.  I am a cop for crying out loud.  What did you expect?  I also write like a cop and basically give the facts without the fluff.  I guess that is what a ghostwriter is for.  I am a writer all right, but not a ghost.

In 1980, I experienced one of the most traumatic tragedies in our lifetimes.  I helped pull dead bodies out of the MGM Grand hotel fire in Las Vegas.  It was a night I will never forget.

In 1990, some ten years after the fire I wrote about my observations from that night.  It was a very vivid “first responder” recollection of my actions and emotions as I worked the scene.

I let my wife read it and a few close friends and I got the same reaction I wanted.  Everyone who read the article cried, including me!

In 2005, on the 25th anniversary of the tragedy I sent the article to The Las Vegas Review Journal Newspaper and they called me and flew me out to meet with them.  They decided to dedicate a pull out section of the Sunday paper called “In Depth” about the fire and mine was to be a lead story.  I was very proud of that and still am to this day.

That is when I thought I had arrived as it was my first published article.  Needless to say my wonderful wife Marcie framed up the article very nicely and it proudly hangs in our home today.

 

 

 

Is the writing life what you expected when you started out? If not, how is it different?

It’s too early to tell.  I will say this however as a brief observation that I find amusing.  As soon as someone finds out you wrote a book they want to be your friend and they want a signed copy of the book and hopefully for free.  I could just be some jerk sitting at a bar or on a bus and nobody will even look at me or give me the time of day.  Then they hear you are an author and they want to shake your hand and be your best friend. It’s crazy.

Not to take a slam at authors but I would hope people would want to shake my hand and say “thanks” once they hear I am a retired law enforcement official who routinely put my life on the line for people like them and other strangers.  With that they could care less.  But they hear you are an author and they want to be your friend and say they know you.  It’s the damnedest thing.

Then of course all my buddies break my stones and want me to sign a bunch of books that they can then sell and make a few bucks on.  See, I really am from Chicago.

The general public seems to think authors are relatively wealthy. Without prying too much, has your writing income lived up to expectations?

I can tell you that thus far I have not made dime one on this project.  In fact, I am out approximately $20,000 to date because I had to hire a ghostwriter and a publicist if I wanted to get published.  I also had to pay for a professional cover designer, website professional and formatter up front.

This is my first book and I learned publishers won’t talk to you if you aren’t represented by an agent.  Agents won’t talk to you because you are not yet a published author.  It is a vicious circle and I learned you have to self-publish your first book to prove you are “sales-worthy.”  If you are, agents who know publishers will follow.

If you think about it they all minimize their risks as most authors who think they can write don’t sell.  However, if they come to an agent with a proven sales sheet, the agent minimizes their risk as they now are representing a known “money maker.”  It doesn’t even matter if the author can write or not as sales are all that matter.

I can tell you that I am confident in my ability to tell a story and I believe I have a unique perspective and experiences to draw from.

In fact, there is no doubt in my mind that this novel will eventually become a screenplay and then a movie as soon as the right people discover it.

In the meantime will readers want to pay to hear my story?  I guess that’s the exciting part and remains to be seen.

Early on, so much focus is given to getting published. Now that you’re published, how has your focus changed?

I would really like to get this novel written as a screenplay and turned into a movie.  If you think about it this story has it all.  A biker related quadruple homicide, arson, witness intimidation, knifing, attempted murders and good old fashioned police work. 

How long did it take you to get published the first time?

It took me about 10 years to write the story.  I then found a ghostwriter/editor (Priscilla Barton) who helped me get it “published ready.”  After entering several contests to no avail and discussions with several publishers to no avail, we decided to self publish.

Priscilla did her homework here and found a great cover designer and formatter.

Also to be very candid, I am not sure how the sales will go on this project so we decided to do it ourselves and see where it leads us.  The very least we felt we needed was to invest in a great publicist so we got the best in PJ Nunn from Breakthrough Promotions.

Once we decided to self publish it took just over a year.  This includes rewrites, cover and web design, formatting and printing of the advanced reader copies and their feedback.

Would you do anything differently if you had it to do over again?

I would take the time to find someone locally who is multi-talented to include writing, editing & publishing who has a certain amount of time to dedicate to the project.  For instance we need to meet face to face to exchange ideas and discuss expectations, deadlines, problems and any other issues that are relevant.

I believe it is possible to do things via email, however working remotely caused me too much frustration and down time. 

Writing new material, rewriting, submitting new work, waiting, promoting published work…the list is large. How do you manage to divvy up your time to give adequate attention to all needed areas?

 I need hands on assistance in naming a goal and then executing a game plan to achieve that goal.  Otherwise it is a “hit and miss” operation that I am not comfortable with.  As I stated earlier I believe in the team approach very personal and hands on to look together to accomplish a goal or due date.  This approach also leads to the freshest ideas in writing from those involved.

What is the single most exciting thing that’s happened to you as a writer?

 I am looking forward to seeing how our promotions and sales go once the book is released October 15.  This will serve as a good indicator whether or not people will part with their hard earned money to read what I have to write.  At the very least I will soon be able to check “write a book” off my bucket list.

What is the single most disappointing thing that happened to you as a writer?

I really thought that what I had to bring to the table would have publishers jump at my project.  Not to even get a nibble was very humbling to me.  I always thought they would like to hear from a retired Federal Agent and Author but it’s not that easy.

What’s the most memorable thing (good or bad) that’s happened to you while promoting your work?

One lady told me it (JUSTICE FOR DALLAS) was the best book she has read since The Firm.  She said she couldn’t put it down and if this doesn’t make the New York Times best seller list she will eat her hat.  That was pretty cool.  I said, “Thanks a lot, mom.”

Actually that quote came from Ms. Nanci Wudel of Mesa, AZ.

With more books being released each month now than ever before, what do you believe sets your work apart from the others?

I am very confident that my writing style has a unique way of bringing the reader into the story or crime scene.  As far as I know there aren’t too many Retired ATF Special Agents who are currently Authors.  The fact that ATF is such a controversial Federal Agency should also work in my favor I believe.

There is no doubt that I have witnessed a lot of stuff in my 30 plus years in law enforcement.  Some crazy, some scary, some dangerous, some funny but rest assured I always tried to do the right thing.  I couldn’t help but get emotionally involved at times and just living through it and witnessing it gave me a different perspective on life.

The most exciting thing about being a cop remains that when the bell rings you go and you often go alone.  All cops are heroes no matter what anybody says.

What would you like to share with writers who haven’t reached the point of publication yet?

Don’t give up…don’t ever give up.

What do you feel is your most effective tool for promoting your published work?

My experience and background allows me to discuss the scenes in detail because they are all inspired by actual events.

Share with us an elevator pitch (no more than 30 seconds) of your latest title: Justice for Dallas

Butch Crowley

He ruled the Iron Cobras

No one could touch him

No one could stop him

Until ATF Special Agent Marko Novak

And his small force of men

Swore they’d bring him down.

Where can we buy it?

Amazon.com         after October 15, 2013

What last thing would you like to share with us that nobody knows about you and your work?

I still dream about playing hockey for my hometown Blackhawks

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An interview with L.C. Hayden

lchaydenAuthor Elsie “L.C.” Hayden has been a friend and colleague of mine for many years and it’s been exciting to watch as her career has grown and her work has evolved. I never know what she’s going to do next!

PJ:  How long have you been writing?

LC: Not too sure, but I think I was born with a pen in my mouth and a piece of paper in my hand.  Then I grew up and became one of those who wrote page after page when the teacher assigned a composition. Teachers hated me because I made their grading harder. When I was in college, I had my first piece, a folklore article, published.

PJ: At what point did you reach a place where you felt successful as a writer?

LC: Not quite sure I’m there yet. For every goal I achieve, there’s always twenty million more to accomplish. I’ve had some highlights, though: when I signed my first royalty contract; when the first fan told me how much she enjoyed my books; the first time I was nominated for a major award (Agatha Award for Best Novel,) and so many more memorable times.

PJ: Is the writing life what you expected when you started out? If not, how is it different?

LC: I never knew that being an author meant being a salesperson. Two completely different hats the author has to wear. Also, I probably had a glamorized picture. You know what I mean. You do a book signing and people actually show up.

PJ: The general public seems to think authors are relatively wealthy. Without prying too much, has your writing income lived up to expectations?

LC: It’s finally beginning to. When I first started, there was no such thing as a monthly income. I was lucky to claim a few thousand a year. But now that my books are steadily selling, I have a nice monthly income that surpasses my early yearly incomes.

PJ: Early on, so much focus is given to getting published. Now that you’re published, how has your focus changed?

LC: I concentrate on writing a better novel. If my current novel receives twenty five-star reviews, I want the next to receive twenty-five five-star reviews because it’s that much better.

PJ: How long did it take you to get published the first time?

LC: A whopping ten years. That’s the one thing about writing: you should never give up.

PJ: Would you do anything differently if you had it to do over again?

LC: I feel that my early novels, while basically good, are not excellent. I wish I knew then what I now know. I would have made those novels so much better.

PJ: Writing new material, rewriting, submitting new work, waiting, promoting published work…the list is large. How do you manage to divvy up your time to give adequate attention to all needed areas?

LC: When I’m writing, I devote the majority of time to writing. After that first draft is finished, I set it aside and work on something else—usually promotional stuff. After a few days of that, I go back to writing or editing. This switching back and forth works well for me.

PJ: What is the single most exciting thing that’s happened to you as a writer???????????

LC: I received a call asking me to speak at a major cruise line during their days at sea. In return, I and guest of my choosing (which has always been my husband) would receive a free cruise and the ship would carry my books. At the end of the cruise, I would pick up a check. How can anyone refuse an offer like that? So far, I’ve done the Caribbean and the Mexican Riviera several times, Hawaii, the Mediterranean, and the Panama Canal two times, each time with a different cruise line. I love this part of promoting!

PJ: What is the single most disappointing thing that happened to you as a writer?

LC: I flew to Alaska to do a presentation. I knew someone would be at the airport to greet me. Soon as I stepped off, two ladies approached me. “You’re L. C.,” they said. I was instantly flattered. They had actually recognized me. I was coming up in the world. “Yes,” I answered. “How did you know?” Their eyes indicated my attire. I wore a parka, a wool hat, snow boots—after all, this is Alaska. Then I looked at the other passengers. They wore light to medium jackets, no head cover, and normal shoes. So much for being recognized. Sigh.

PJ: What’s the most memorable thing (good or bad) that’s happened to you while promoting your work?

LC: While researching my novel set in Las Vegas, I sat back stage with the impersonators of Legends in Concert. Elvis Presley” looked at his watch and told me it was almost time for the show. Since they had gotten me front row tickets, I asked them for directions back to the stage. I was told to go down the corridor, turn right at the second turn, then go left, up a flight of stairs and make an immediate right. Go through the door at the right. Then . . .  He hadn’t even finished and I was already confused.

I tried to follow the directions but got desperately lost. I opened the door I believe “Elvis” said I should. A tiny village expending several yards greeted me. It immediately captured my attention. The lights twinkled, the car wheels rolled. I could almost hear the children’s laughter. From behind me, I heard some noise. I turned and the audience began to clap. I had walked right into the stage.

Someone thought it was cute as they put the spot light on me.

I curtsied and ran down the stairs.

So you see, folks, I have been an opening act to a Las Vegas show.

PJ: With more books being released each month now than ever before, what do you believe sets your work apart from the others?

LC: No matter which mystery is being reviewed or by whom, the reviewer seems to make the same comment: “filled with lots of action and a surprise ending that you never expected.” Therefore, I’d say that what sets my books apart is that each work promises an edge of the seat read with a surprise ending.

PJ: What would you like to share with writers who haven’t reached the point of publication yet?

??????????LC: Never, ever give up. Have faith in your writing and in you. Write the best book possible, get it professionally edited, and be proud of your work.

PJ: What do you feel is your most effective tool for promoting your published work?

LC: Speaking. If I do a normal signing, I sell X-number of books. But if I speak, I sell an X-number-plus books. That’s one reason I love doing the cruises. I do presentations and get to sell a lot of books.

PJ: What area of book promotion is the most challenging to you?

LC: Asking people to buy my books. I hate asking people to spend their money. Consequently, I leave it up to my readers to choose if they want to buy them or not—but I hope they do.

PJ: Do you have a local independent bookseller you’d like to mention?

LC: Unfortunately, I live in El Paso, TX, and we only have two Barnes and Nobles and no independent bookstores. I wish we were a more literate city. However, although I have a lot of non-local mystery bookstores that I absolutely love, I especially like Mystery Lovers Bookshop in Oakmont, PA. They hold a yearly Book Festival that is one of the very best.

Give us a list of your published titles in chronological or series order:

Mysteries: from latest release to earliest release:

Harry Bronson Mysteries: When the Past Haunts You (2013 LCC Watson Award Nominee)when the past

                                                    When Death Intervenes

                                                    Why Casey Had to Die (Agatha Award Finalist)

                                                    What Others Know (2009 LCC Best Novel Finalist)

                      (please check for my website for earlier titles: www.lchayden.com

Aimee Brent Mysteries: Ill Conceived

                                                 Vengeance in My Heart (coming soon) 

Children’s Picture Book: What Am I? What Am I?

Inspirational: Nonfiction: Angels Around Us

                                             When Angels Touch You

                        Fiction: Bell Shaped Flowers

Writer’s Manual: Help! I Want to Write

                               Breaking and Entering: The Road to Success (edited)

Paranormal: The Drums of Geruld Hurd

Share with us an elevator pitch (no more than 30 seconds) of your latest title:

Did you ever wish you were given a second chance to correct past mistakes? This happens to Harry Bronson in When the Past Haunts You. His estranged sister calls him, begging for help. What follows is a hair-raising journey full of sharp turns and rocky terrain. The refrain Don’t leave me weaves through the book and echoes our deepest longings for connection, for family, and for correcting past mistakes. Goodreads hailed When the Past Haunts You as one of 2012 best reads. Pick up a copy and find out what happens When the Past Haunts You.

 

Where can we buy it?

If you’re looking for the e-book version, go to www.tinyurl.com/LCHayden  If you want the traditional book you can buy it from Amazon or from me. Or you can check with your favorite book store and see if they’ll order it for you.

PJ: What last thing would you like to share with us that nobody knows about you and your work?

LC: As an author, I get asked a lot of questions, but the one I get asked the most is “What exactly does L. C. stand for?”

The answer goes back to way before I started writing my novels. Before writing mysteries, I freelanced for several magazines. I looked at the various ones and decided I’d like to write for the treasure magazines. I researched, wrote the article, and since this happened before the invention of computers, I typed the piece. I used my real name as my byline: by Elsie Hayden.

My husband, Rich, took the pictures, printed them (told you it was before computers), and I sent the package in. It came back. “Thanks, but we’ve just bought a similar piece.”

I was devastated but did not give up. I researched another buried treasure and eagerly sent it out. It, too, came back. “Thanks, but we’ve just assigned this to someone else.”

Hmm…I wasn’t liking this trend, but I must be from Missouri. I wouldn’t give up. I sent a third, a fourth, a fifth . . . They all came back.

By this time, I felt like a high school dropout. I picked up a copy of the magazine and slammed it down. Talking to myself, I said aloud, “This is exactly what they’re looking for. Why are they not publishing me?”
Rich picked up the magazine and pointed to the title page. “Look at the articles. They’re written by John, by Steve, by Mike. There’s no Marys, no Susies, no Elsies.”
Being a smart cookie, the light dawned on me. I took out the first rejected manuscript and retyped the first page. The only change I made was the byline. I changed it from by Elsie Hayden to by L. C. Hayden.
The article was immediately accepted. So were a second, and a third. . . I got used to using the initials and when it came time to write my mysteries and other novels, it felt natural to continue to use L. C. instead of Elsie.

And thus, L. C. Hayden, the author, was born (or was I created?)